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Friday, October 24, 2008

Why Politics and Religion Must Be Separate
Why Voting for Religious Reasons is Wrong

This is a really simple argument for the evangelicals and other religious types who are choosing to vote for a candidate because they want their bible’s rules to be put into American laws.

When you take away the ability for people to choose (such as abortion rights), you remove from people the right to choose what path they want to take. A person who is forced to make the right choice is not really being tested. As civil liberties (that is, our rights to do what we want) are taken away, and we are forced to do certain things by the laws, we lose our ability to choose to do the right thing. That is the number one thing that God wanted us all to have. Free will.

If you deny us the right to do what we want with our lives, you are going against God.

More importantly (to me anyways), is the idea that the laws of society should be separate from the laws of any religious text. This is primarily because there are many religious texts out there and the few areas where they agree are already in our law system (don’t kill each other, don’t steal from each other, don’t sleep with each other’s wife/wives, etc). Everything else should be up to an individual to decide based on their own religious beliefs. As soon as you start slipping bible (or Koran) verse into the law system, you end up with the possibility of destroying other religions.

There is one thing that America is supposed to be about, and that is freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to make your own choices. Why would you ever want to lose those freedoms? God would not approve of anyone being FORCED down a righteous path, because it would be utterly meaningless in God’s eyes.

So stop trying to impose your religious beliefs on our system of laws. You are only hurting God when you do that.

posted by CommanderHate at 4:12 pm  


  1. Why Politics and Religion Must Be SeparateWhy Voting for Religious ……

    Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to make your own choices. Why would you ever want to lose those freedoms? God would not approve of anyone being FORCED down a righteous path, because it would be utterly meaningless in ……

    Trackback by Conspirama — October 24, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

  2. This is an argument that makes sense to anyone agnostic or, pardon my language; reasonable. But, try talking to someone with very strong religious beliefs. My dad is such a person, and he refuses to even listen to the suggestion that religion and law should be separate. His argument is that the law has a moral responsibility to uphold religious truths.

    I don’t agree with him in the slightest; I just thought I’d illustrate one example I’ve encountered where reason has no effect against someone with a steadfast point of view.

    Comment by Aaron — October 26, 2008 @ 10:49 am

  3. When arguing with religious folk I try to get them to see the possibility of their religion being the one persecuted. As an example, imagine that through some turn of events, Christianity is booted from the #1 spot in the world chain and Paganism takes its place. Imagine then that the Pagans start forcing their religion into the work of the constitution and they decide because mother earth is sacred, littering should now be punishable by immediate execution. Kind of sucks huh.

    Well, abortion rights are similar and the reason the bible needs to stay out of our political system is because things can easily change down the road. As soon as you allow for one religion into the laws, you open the book for other religions to have their say later on down the road.

    In another 1000 years when all the Christians realize that Jesus isn’t ever “coming back” to pick them up, people might start trying new religions. But wouldn’t it be nice if the people who stuck with Christianity weren’t forced to live under the laws of some other religion when that does happen?

    Of course, these arguments tend to be moot as Christian fanatics tend to not be able to see how any other religion would ever reach a place of dominance. =(

    Comment by CommanderHate — October 27, 2008 @ 1:46 am

  4. I totally agree with that approach, and I think that with anybody who thinks religion and law should be one and the same – it’s really one of the only approaches that might work.

    I haven’t thought about it explicitly in these terms until reading your post; acceptance (for lack of a better word) comes from being able to put yourself in the place of any other person.

    Such a simple idea, yet so seemingly out of the norm.

    Comment by Aaron — November 7, 2008 @ 9:06 am

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